Note: Python 3.13 is the main Python of Fedora 41 now; the updates have landed. There are still 89 packages in Fedora 41 that have not been rebuilt with Python 3.13 yet.

59 packages as of today.

I found a couple more bugzillas:

GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 14+, binutils 2.42+, glibc 2.40, gdb 14+)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274811
ASSIGNED

Pytest 8
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2276439
MODIFIED (now changed to ON_QA)

Fedora Miracle
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2282169
ASSIGNED

LLVM 19
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2293629
ASSIGNED

Retire Python 2.7
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2300341
ASSIGNED (now changed to ON_QA)

fedora-repoquery tool
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2304172
MODIFIED

Switch to dnf5
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274810
POST

KDE Plasma Mobile Spin & Fedora Kinoite Spin
Owner: @siosm @tdawson @ngompa
Tracker Bug: #2300339
Status: ASSIGNED
Note: The owners have been contacted for a status update for this change in the tracker bug.

This change is ready for the KDE Plasma Mobile Spin.
The Kinoite Mobile Atomic variant is not fully enabled in Fedora infra yet. This is tracked in https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/559.
This however does not block this change and will likely happen after the beta freeze. We will not provide Kinoite Mobile installation ISOs for F41.

Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite
Owner: @walters @siosm @tpopela @pwhalen
Tracker bug: #2150982
Status: ASSIGNED
Notes: The owners have been contacted for a status update for this change in the tracker bug.

This change is ready for F41 even though we are still investigating some related issues:

• https://gitlab.com/fedora/ostree/sig/-/issues/1
• https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2304328

We can undo it before the release freeze if we can not fix those in time for the release.

OstreeNativeContainerStable
Owner: @jmarrero @walters @baude
Tracker bug: #2151321
Status: ASSIGNED
Notes: This change is now included in the bootc initiative and the owner has been contacted to confirm if the change has landed for F41 or if this needs to be deferred.

This change is not complete but now included in the bootc initiative. Not sure how we could reflect that.

mkosi-initrd
Owner: @zbyszek
Tracker bug: #2203221

Bumped to F42 :(

Confidential Virtualization Host with AMD SEV-SNP
Owner: @berrange
Tracker Bug:
Status: ASSIGNED

I think we should postpone this for F42. I looked at the package reviews, and they're at <50%. (I expect that some of the packages not submitted for review will be more complicated. So far a bunch of Rust libraries was packaged, and those are relatively simple.)

PyTorch 2.4
Owner: @trix
Tracker Bug: #2304171
Status: ASSIGNED
Notes: Unable to contact the change owner through bugzilla as account has been disabled to get a current status update on the change

The address has been updated in bugzilla, see e.g. #2304171.

The package has been updated, I changed the tracker bug to ON_QA.

ROCm 6.2
Owner: @trix @mystro256
Tracker bug: #2305771
Status: ASSIGNED
Notes: Unable to contact the change owner through bugzilla as account has been disabled to get a current status update on the change

This doesn't seem to be done. Some preparation for the updates has happened, but the builds are not done. I think we can allow this to go in after Beta, those are leaf packages.

• dnf5 has clearly been done, we should just bump that to ON_QA, I guess.
• There's a PR for Miracle, to Rawhide only ATM, but I guess the idea is to run a Rawhide compose before merging it for F41. I'll mention this in the bug.

Confidential Virtualization Host with AMD SEV-SNP
Owner: @berrange
Tracker Bug:
Status: ASSIGNED

I think we should postpone this for F42. I looked at the package reviews, and they're at <50%. (I expect that some of the packages not submitted for review will be more complicated. So far a bunch of Rust libraries was packaged, and those are relatively simple.)

Sorry I went on holiday at precisely the wrong time to give a status update!

I've just updated the feature "Scope" section with latest status. TL;DR:

We have kernel, QEMU, libvirt & EDK2 support included in Fedora 41 currently. This is sufficient to create SNP VMs if you know what you're doing.

We are missing SVSM support (which is all the Rust pieces) which is what would help us provide a vTPM. This has slipped and won't be viable until F42.

We are missing virt-install support for making installation easier for mere mortals. Although we missed the Feature deadline, it is likely we'll still get this into F41, as the code exists upstream.

Overall, my thought is that we update the feature page to match what currently exists in F41 for kernel, qemu, libvirt & EDK2, along with expected virt-install support. Then I'll create a new F42 feature page for the SVSM stuff that we missed in F41.

I forgot to include the summary of yesterday's meeting in this ticket. Here it is:

• TOPIC: Incomplete Change: Python 3.13 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:17:19)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.13
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:17:28)
  • INFO: There are still 59 packages in Fedora 41 that have not
    been rebuilt with Python 3.13 yet. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:17:42)
  • INFO: Change is ON_QA and sufficiently complete at this stage
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:20:15)
• TOPIC: IPU6 Camera Support (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:20:31)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/IPU6_Camera_support
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:20:38)
  • INFO: Ticket is in MODIFIED state. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:20:52)
  • INFO: Change is feature complete, but with some open bugs.
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:22:13)
• TOPIC: RPM 4.20 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:22:28)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-4.20
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:22:36)
  • INFO: Ticket was updated to ON_QA today. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:22:40)
• TOPIC: Golang 1.23 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:23:35)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/golang1.23
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:23:41)
  • AGREED: We allow them to revise the Change to be just about
    shipping the compiler. We don't advertise anything implying that
    packages were rebuilt USING that compiler. We allow packages to build
    as their maintainers see fit, within the normal confines of the
    Freezes and Stable Updates Policy. (+6, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
    17:35:38)
• TOPIC: Systemd Security Hardening (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:36:11)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdSecurityHardening
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:36:18)
  • AGREED: Ask them to revise the title to something indicating
    "F41 progress" and edit Release Notes section with highlights. (+6, 0,
    -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:42:01)
• TOPIC: Netavark Nftables Default (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:42:18)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NetavarkNftablesDefault
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:42:24)
  • INFO: Ticket was moved to ON_QA (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:45:21)
• TOPIC: Haskell GHC 9.6 and Stackage LTS 22 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:43:47)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Haskell_GHC_9.6_and_Stackage_22
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:43:52)
  • INFO: Ticket was moved to ON_QA today. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:44:49)
• TOPIC: Make Tuned the Default Power Profile Management Daemon
  (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:45:56)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/TunedAsTheDefaultPowerProfileManagementDaemon
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:46:03)
  • AGREED: This Change blocks Beta for Fedora 41. (+6, 0, -0)
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:59:34)
  • ACTION: Conan Kudo to handle filing a blocker BZ for this Change
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:02:03)
• TOPIC: Libvirt Virtual Network NFTables (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:02:19)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibvirtVirtualNetworkNFTables
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:02:27)
  • INFO: This is believed to be complete. sgallagh will reach out
    to the Change Owner for confirmation. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:07:48)
• TOPIC: Confidential Virtualization Host with AMD SEV-SNP
  (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:08:08)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ConfidentialVirtHostAMDSEVSNP
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:08:14)
  • AGREED: Defer Change to Fedora 42 (+5, 0, -0)
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:11:49)
• TOPIC: KDE Plasma Mobile Spin & Fedora Kinoite Spin\
  (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:12:26)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_KDE_Plasma_Mobile
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:12:34)
  • INFO: Images exist and BZ was moved to ON_QA
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:14:18)
  • INFO: Kinoite Mobile ISOs will not be available for Fedora 41
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:14:58)
• TOPIC: Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite
  (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:15:39)
  • LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2150982
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:15:45)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:16:28)
  • INFO: This is now ON_QA and is testable for Beta
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:17:58)
• TOPIC: mkosi-initrd (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:18:53)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/mkosi-initrd
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:18:59)
  • INFO: Change Owner has deferred this Change to Fedora 42
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:19:12)
• TOPIC: OstreeNativeContainerStable (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:19:34)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:19:40)
  • AGREED: Reject this change and request that smaller ones be
    resubmitted for Fedora 42. (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:25:02)
• TOPIC: PyTorch 2.4 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:25:30)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PyTorch2.4
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:25:30)
  • INFO: This is now ON_QA (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:26:02)
• TOPIC: ROCm 6.2 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:26:34)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ROCm6.2
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:26:36)
  • AGREED: Permit this to land anytime before Final Freeze, revisit
    decision at that time. (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:31:26)
• TOPIC: Reduce the amount of "dontaudit" rules pertaining to
  unlabeled_t (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:31:40)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SELinux_dontaudit_unlabeled_t
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:31:46)
  • AGREED: Defer this Change to F42 (+5, 0, -0)
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:37:42)
• TOPIC: Taskwarrior 3 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:38:01)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Taskwarrior3
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:38:11)
  • INFO: Punting the decision on this Change until next week. (+5,
    0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:44:31)
• TOPIC: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 14+, binutils 2.42+, glibc 2.40,
  gdb 14+) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:45:04)
  • LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274811
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:45:14)
  • INFO: This has been in place since March. (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:46:02)
• TOPIC: Fedora Miracle (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:46:45)
  • LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2282169
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:46:52)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraMiracle
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:47:59)
  • INFO: This is pretty much ready, just awaiting a compose.
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:48:38)
• TOPIC: LLVM 19 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:49:09)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LLVM-19
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:49:31)
  • LINK: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/fedora-llvm-team/llvm19/
    (@jistone:fedora.im, 18:49:56)
  • INFO: The late landing of LLVM was planned for in the original
    proposal. It will land during Beta Freeze. (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
    18:51:17)
• TOPIC: fedora-repoquery tool (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:52:03)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/fedora-repoquery_tool
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:52:13)
• TOPIC: This Change is ON_QA now (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:53:17)
• TOPIC: Switch to dnf5 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:53:28)
  • LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SwitchToDnf5
    (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:53:43)
  • AGREED: ping maintainers for a update and revisit next week (+5,
    0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:58:41)

Confidential Virtualization Host with AMD SEV-SNP

Overall, my thought is that we update the feature page to match what currently exists in F41 for kernel, qemu, libvirt & EDK2, along with expected virt-install support. Then I'll create a new F42 feature page for the SVSM stuff that we missed in F41.

Yes please.

Looks like we have two to review this week:

• Taskwarrior 3
  • Owner: @ankursinha
  • Tracker Bug: #2304175
  • Status: ASSIGNED
• Switch to dnf5
  • Owner: @jkolarik @jmracek
  • Tracker Bug: #2274810
  • Status: POST

Update on follow ups for changes:

• ostree native container phase two, stable
  • Change has been withdrawn from F41 and change owners have been emailed to request they resubmit smaller scoped changes for upcoming Fedora Linux releases that this work will target as part of the boot-c initiative.
• Systemd Security Hardening
  • Change owner has been contacted to request they edit this current change proposal to reflect the work done to date, and use a 'phased' approach to deliver this change overall, with the work in this change being the first phase. Deadline for the change to the proposal should be done before beta release (17th sept), but if this is missed, they have been advised that it needs to be done before final freeze (October 15th) or the change will need to be retargeted to F42 in its entirety.
• Confidential Virtualization Host with AMD SEV-SNP
  • Change retargeted to F42
• Reduce the amount of "dontaudit" rules pertaining to unlabeled_t
  • Change retargeted to F42

@sgallagh I didnt do anything with the changes you had an action against following up with owners for, and for DNF5, but I can do if this hasnt happened yet, just let me know.

This was discussed during today's FESCo meeting:

• TOPIC:#3264 Incomplete Changes Report for Fedora Linux 41 (@decathorpe:fedora.im, 17:11:15)
  • INFO: Reviews for TaskWarrior 3 are in progress. The package can land after Beta. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:13:48)
• TOPIC:Switch to dnf5 (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:14:05)
  • INFO: dnf5daemon was postponed to F42. Gnome-software will continue to use PackageKit + libdnf4. Tracker bug is ON_QA. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:20:15)
• TOPIC:IPU6 Camera Support (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:21:49)
  • INFO: Change is feature complete, but with some open bugs. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:23:51)
• TOPIC:Make Tuned the Default Power Profile Management Daemon (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:24:09)
  • INFO: The change seems mostly done, but there's some integration work missing. We'll revisit after Beta. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:29:30)

On IPU6 camera support - I note in the Change page "Test plan will be filled in as soon as all necessary bits have landed in rawhide", but that has not happened. I have a laptop with one of these cameras (XPS 13 9315). I tried installing all the packages mentioned in the Change and using various camera apps and Firefox, but nothing seems to see the camera at all, so it's hard to know where we're at with this Change. @jwrdegoede would it be possible to update that?

Everything in bugzilla is ON_QA and beta ships tomorrow.

I know we have a few followups post beta, perhaps we should file those seperately?

Do we have anything for tomorrow or can this be closed now?

As far as I know, this can be closed

Alright, closing.