#3535 New FESCo meeting time (including whenisgood results)
Closed: Accepted by decathorpe. Opened by decathorpe.

It appears the image / attachment upload functionality in pagure is broken, so I can't embed the results here, but here's a link I guess:

https://decathorpe.fedorapeople.org/fesco/whenisgood-f43-results.png

The results are in UTC+1 time, so the one slot that is currently still green is 17:00 UTC (which is also our current meeting time).

It appears that some of us would prefer that this meeting time would stay pinned to a timezone with DST rather than UTC, so, let's make this a proposal:

New meeting time is 17:00 UTC if DST is not in effect, and 18:00 UTC if DST is in effect.


Works for me. +1

If everyone is good with it, I'll update it accordingly.

+1 but we need to decide which DST change we'll follow (EU or US). I don't care which one, we just need to pick one.

When did we post a whenisgood poll? I don't remember filling this out, unless it was WEEKS ago and I forgot about it.

+1 but we need to decide which DST change we'll follow (EU or US). I don't care which one, we just need to pick one.

I tend to lean toward using US/Eastern and following that simply because the other Fedora meetings I'm in do that too.

Well, I just saw the email for the poll to the FESCo list which was sent this last Friday after 5pm in my time zone. I haven't filled out the poll, but I'm doing that now.

-1 on the result since it has not included all members

This will be discussed during today's meeting anyway (if we have time).

So it looks like we got confused during yesterday's meeting - GMT does not include DST either and is just UTC+0? So pinning the meeting time to that doesn't solve the DST drift.

I propose that we pin the meeting time to 18:00 Europe/London instead (that should be what we wanted to do?).

Right, London time is GMT (UTC+0) in the winter, BST (British Summer Time, UTC+1) in the summer, and the GMT/BST DST shift dates are currently still the same as those for the EU (CET/CEST).

DST in the US does start and end on different dates than European DST, but by no more than a few weeks.

I propose that we pin the meeting time to 18:00 Europe/London instead (that should be what we wanted to do?).

Yes, I'll fix it, I messed up because people kept saying GMT and I kept insisting on Europe/London for this reason.

The proposal was:

Proposal: Set meeting time to 18:00 GMT (UTC+EU-DST) going forward.

The part in the parentheses is what we wanted (I interpreted/interpret is as "utc" + "dst according to the EU schedule"), but "GMT" is wrong.

+1 to "Europe/London" for this reason.

I just fixed it.

Thank you! I'll go ahead and close this ticket then. :)

Metadata Update from @decathorpe:
- Issue close_status updated to: Accepted
- Issue status updated to: Closed (was: Open)

FYI for most people: officially GMT is equivalent to UTC. So don't use the GMT code for anything if you mean "the time that exists in Greenwich near London, England".

Hm, I am getting "405 Method Not Allowed" error responses from pagure when trying to add a :heart: to your comment, otherwise I would have done that.

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